The comments quoted below are probably intended to silence criticism of Islam (though this is not truly criticism, for the ugliness, barbarity, and pure evil manifested in Allah's will and Mahomet's example are recorded verbatim in Islam's own "sacred" texts--this is just telling what its texts actually say, truth that so many in the West are eager to dismiss, excuse, and ignore, truth so many rush to punish truth-tellers for telling). If you can condemn YHWH and libel His Christ at the same time, that's just a bonus!
If the poster's true motivation is merely to discredit the God of the Bible (in his mind only, not in truth), regardless of the fact that attempting to do so in this manner only moves the ignorant, gullible, uncritical Infidel away from Christ and closer to the tyranny of Allah, then he and his kind are happy to make such false arguments!
Yes, there are commands requiring violence in the Old Testament, but this apparent "similarity" between the God of the Bible and the god of Islam exists only for those ignorant of the textual and historical contexts of both religions' commands. There is no substantive similarity between the word of YHWH as expressed in Christ and the word and will of Allah as expressed through the murderous, thieving, enslaving, raping, heretical pedophile Mohammed.
It is important to remember that:
-the death penalty in Exodus was to be carried out within the nation of Israel only for breaking specific laws--they were legal requirements, while Allah's commands to "...kill the infidels wherever you find them..." (Qur'an 9:5, et al) are to be carried out throughout the entire world until "all religion is for Allah" (then you just get to kill apostates);There can be no greater difference, no sharper distinction, no wider moral chasm than that between Christ and Allah, between the God of the Bible and the devil of Qur'an and Sunnah. Those who argue otherwise only harm their hearers.
-YHWH's command for Israel to wipe out all living things in Canaan was for that time and place only and the carrying out of Divine judgment. Mohammed's exhortations to fight against the people until "all confess there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his apostle" were for all times and places. According to him, the Infidel is to be offered three choices under Islam: conversion, submission and humiliation, or war;
-the God of the Old Testament fully revealed Himself in His Son Who loved, healed, committed no sin, and gave Himself up to brutal torture and death for sinners. Mohammed, whom Allah described as a "beautiful pattern of conduct," warred, murdered, enslaved, raped, lied, stole, consummated his "marriage" to a six-year-old child when she was nine and he in his fifties, and taught His followers to do the same.
Following are some comments from an anonymous writer with enough courage for only a drive-by posting.
Just a tiny bit of Christian apoplectics, taken from the book of Exodus.An attempt to equate YHWH with Allah, mocking Him while he's at it.
If an ox gores a slave, the owner of the ox must pay the owner of the slave 30 shekels of silver, and "the ox shall be stoned." 21:32Forget compensating a slave for his injury, let's protect a dangerous, violent beast! He must be a lawyer (or a liberal).
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18This was a legal judgment for Ancient Israel whose people willingly placed themselves under the Mosaic Covenant, promising to obey all its laws, including those against witchcraft and divination. That some Christians later misapplied the command was an evil.
"Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send them to counseling or something? 22:19That conclusion can only be drawn by the ignorant and the deceitful. Again, the capital punishment was for violating Israel's criminal code, not a "divine" mandate for universal bloodshed (as in Islam).
"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20
If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family with his own sword. 22:24More mocking, not only of God, but also of basic intellectual integrity.
Here is the verse in question and what comes immediately before:
"Never take advantage of any widow or orphan. If you do and they cry out to me, you can be sure that I will hear their cry. I will become angry and have you killed in combat. Then your wives and children will become widows and orphans" (Exodus 22:22-24).So, what God intends as a command for justice, decency, and mercy, Anonymous makes into petty anger and brutality befitting Allah.
Apparently, Anonymous believes it is good, right, and salutary to exploit orphans and widows (assuming he actually read the text)! How noble of him!
"The firstborn of thy sons thou shalt give unto me." (As a burnt offering?) 22:29No, as would be clear from reading the rest of the passage. Here is the rest of the story from the word of God:
"Never show disrespect for God...Never withhold your best wine from me. You must give me your firstborn son. You must do the same with your cattle and your sheep. They will stay with their mothers seven days, but on the eighth day you must give them to me. You must be my holy people..." (Exodus 22:28-31).More from Anonymous, Unread, and Dishonest:
God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27Actually, God promised to Abraham that He would give his descendants that land, and He was defending Israel as they entered it. God was also carrying out judgment against those nations for practicing all sorts of evil, including the worship of Molech (a god that required child sacrifice upon its burning arms). He wanted a holy people.
Perhaps Anonymous believes that the nations of the Promised Land were going to let Israel walk right in and take over.
Here is more of the passage:
"My Messenger will go ahead of you and will bring you to the land of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites, and Jebusites. I will wipe them out.More from He Who Mocks Knowledge:
"Never worship or serve their gods or follow their practices. Instead, you must destroy their gods and crush their sacred stones. You must serve the LORD your God, and he will bless your food and water. I will take away all sickness from among you. No woman in your land will miscarry or be unable to have children. I will let you live a normal life span.
"I will send my terror ahead of you and throw any nation you meet into a panic. I will make all your enemies flee from you. I will spread panic ahead of you to force the Hivites, Canaanites, and Hittites out of your way. I will not force them out of your way in one year. Otherwise, the land would be deserted, and wild animals would take over. Little by little I will force them out of your way until you have increased enough in number to take possession of the land.
"I will establish your borders from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Sinai Desert to the Euphrates River. I will put the people living in the land under your control, and you will force them out of your way.
"Never make a treaty with them and their gods. Never let them live in your land, or they will make you sin against me and trap you into serving their gods" (Exodus 23:23-33).
Moses has some animals killed and their dead bodies burned for God. Then he sprinkles their blood on the altar and on the people. This makes God happy. 24:5-8But what does God say?
"So Moses wrote down all the LORD'S words. Early the next morning he built an altar at the foot of the mountain...Then he sent young Israelite men, and they sacrificed bulls as burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to the LORD.To make clear to us the utterly abhorrent nature of sin, God required animal sacrifice in payment for it: "Without the shedding of blood, there can be no forgiveness of sins." All of the sacrifices required under the Mosaic Covenant were foreshadowing the ultimate sacrifice by God's own Son, "the Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world."
"Moses took half of the blood and put it into bowls, and he threw the other half against the altar. Then he took the Book of the LORD'S Promise and read it while the people listened. They said, 'We will obey and do everything the LORD has said.'
"Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people and said, 'Here is the blood which seals the promise that the LORD has made to you based on everything you have just heard.'
"Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and 70 of Israel's leaders. They saw the God of Israel" (Exodus 24:4-10).
"Each day sacrifice a young bull as an offering to make peace with the LORD. Sacrifice this offering for sin on the altar in order to pay for its sins" (Exodus 29:36).So yes, blood was required for sin, but it was for our benefit, first as an object lesson, sign, warning, and atonement for Ancient Israel, then in fulfillment of God's justice and mercy in Christ's body on the cross for us.
Of the offal remaining (pun intended), here's Anonymous' last misrepresentation to elicit a reply:
If you can't redeem him, then just "break his neck." Hey, it's all for the glory of God. 34:20But the Biblical text does not read so flippantly:
"Every first male offspring is mine, even the firstborn males of all your livestock, whether cattle, sheep, or goats. It will cost you a sheep or a goat to buy back the firstborn donkey. If you don't buy it back, then you must break the donkey's neck. You must buy back every firstborn of your sons.Again, an object lesson.
"No one may come into my presence without an offering" (Exodus 34:19, 20).