An insignificant victory for Jihad...

...but since it's difficult to speak when your throat's been slashed, it's a victory nonetheless.

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He [Amillennialist] doesn't know anything about Islam. All he knows is what Islam hating peeps write on a website.

Rather than engage in ad hominem attacks, please demonstrate from Qur'an and Hadith where I've misquoted them. Show from them that the passages I've cited do not state what I claim.

Refute my statements regarding the history of Jihad (but be careful, neither phydeux V5 nor iamthebandfanman tried that).

I'll be waiting.

He doesn't understand that the lines in the Qu'ran were interpreted and translated by Muslim hating redneck folk.

(Which "Muslim hating redneck folk" would that be? Is that Muslim-hating-redneck-folk-aphobia?)

The citations I've provided have been from Muslim sources. Are you implying those Muslims are lying about their own Qur'an and Sunnah?

I have many Muslim friends, in fact I even work with one. We talk Religion all the time and he "in all honesty" celebrates Christmas as it is a holiday worth celebrating for him.

How many Muslims do you know who drink alcohol? Interact with unescorted, unmarried females? Eat pork (or other foods considered haram)?

How many Muslims do you know who in good faith "take friends" from among the unbelievers (though Allah forbids that in his Qur'an)?

How many Muslims do you know who would reject the idea of offensive warfare for Allah as immoral (though he commands it and his prophet said it was the greatest deed one could perform for Allah)?

Probably quite a few (Mohammed calls them "hypocrites".)

But I am not discussing particular Muslims. I am discussing Allah and his prophet.

The issue is not what "many Muslims I know" say or do, but what Allah and his prophet said and did.

Most Muslims see Christ as Mohammed or Moses. They see them all as being on in the same. A Prophet sent down from God to teach.

Islam describes them as all being prophets, but it considers Mohammed the last and greatest of them (and describing Christ as only a prophet--and one lesser than Mohammed at that--is enough to demonstrate that the religions are in no way reconcilable).

The Teachings are all the same, it is those who wrote certain segments of the books that thwarted and twisted certain teachings.

If the people "who wrote certain segments of the books" "thwarted and twisted certain teachings," how do you know they did that, since all we have today is what they wrote? What exactly did they thwart and twist? How do you know?

The teachings (as determined from the texts considered sacred by each religion) are demonstrably not the same (for specific examples, see my previous post in this thread comparing a few of the sayings and doings of Christ and Mohammed).

In the bible we have the same twisted ideals which are contained in the Romans scriptures. These were not words spoken by Jesus or God but words spoken by men... Romans to be exact.

I'm a little unclear as to the identity of the "Romans" to whom you refer. Do you mean the New Testament epistle or the Roman Catholic Church?

If the former, the "Romans" were recipients of Paul's letter by that name. They were Christians living in Rome.

If the latter, the Roman Catholic church considers as authoritative in matters of doctrine the Bible and the traditions of the church.

Regardless of to whom you refer, what "twisted ideals" are in the Bible, what are the "Roman scriptures," and which words were not "spoken by Jesus or God"?

Please, be specific and provide citations.

It is in these teachings that the whole Anti-@#%$ propaganda come from amongst other hateful toxic spew.

Can you clarify this?

I am Roman Catholic.. but I believe Jesus NOT to be the son of God in the context the Church tries and teach us (trying to convince us Jesus is superior to Mohammed and Moses).

The deity of Christ has always been believed and taught by the Christian Church, because Christ claimed it.

What did Jesus say? He said, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" (John 8:58)! To a Jewish audience of the first century, that would be blasphemy because, being well-versed in the Law and Prophets, they would know that YHWH revealed Himself to Moses by that very name, and that by claiming the name of God for Himself, Jesus was making Himself equal with YHWH.

That alone should be enough evidence that Jesus is the unique Son of God and superior to all men, but if it isn't, consider Jesus' testimony before the high priest under oath and facing death:

"The high priest said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."

"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy" (Matthew 26:63b-65).

And after He had been scourged, beaten, and crucified, those who handed Him over to be put Him to death confirmed His claim:

In the same way the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked him. "He saved others," they said, "but he can't save himself! He's the King of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, 'I am the Son of God'" (Matthew 27:41-43).

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Jesus had said that we are ALL the sons and daughters of God and in that context that he was the son of God.

Where?

He placed himself as a equal to us not a superior being.

In the sense that God became flesh. He took on our humanity and became our Brother (but He still possessed the Divine nature).

These are the same teachings prophet Mohammed and Moses taught.

Since Mohammed claimed that anyone who says Allah has a son is a blasphemer, and Christ claimed to be the unique Son of God (as demonstrated above), it should be clear that Christ's teachings are not the same as Mohammed's.

If you've actually rad teh bible you'll hear of Jesus asking those who follow the word of god to rid themseklves of temptation by ridding themselves of eartly posessions

Actually, He said to remove whatever it is in life that causes us to sin (and to worship Him, but that's one of those "thwarted and twisted" parts, right?).

He did condemn greed and the love of money, but when He spoke of rejecting material things, it was in two specific contexts. On one occasion, He was sending some of His disciples on a specific mission (He later told them to provide for themselves those material things which they needed to live). In another instance, Jesus was making a point to a wealthy young man who loved money more than God.

you'll also hear of Jesus stopping descrimination against a Prostitute and healing the sick and blind. You'll also hear the Hippy teachings of Love one another and peaceful teachings...all words spoken by Moses, Jesus or Mohammed are Liberal and this is a fact.

I know Jesus said, "Love your enemies." Please tell me where Mohammed said this.

(Be careful! Passages like Qur'an 9:5 might throw a wrench into your "Mohammed-as-hippie" historical revisionism.)

Amil, Jesus taught us to love one another NO MATTER WHAT THE DIFFERENCES. If you call yourself a Catholic or Christian then I would ask you quit your Islam hating ways

I quote Qur'an and Hadith and you say I hate Islam. That must mean you consider the "perfect" word of Allah and the sayings and doings of the "best of men" improper (or even immoral).

Isn't that Islamophobia?

and start following your God's teachings instead.

But I thought you said they were "thwarted and twisted" and "not the words of Jesus and God."

You're free to continu following your Satanic ways

Quoting the word of Allah is "satanic"? Check your mail. I suspect there's a fatwa with your name on it.